Oh, What a Tangled Web We Weave . . .

Tuesday, July 10, 2007 | 11:28 AM

When we practise to blog! (With all due apologies to Sir Walter Scott).

This very cool java app is a relational toy from Touchgraph. They use Google's network of connectivity between websites to display what sites you are connected to:

I get different responses depending upon whether I use the top level URL (http://bigpicture.typepad.com/) or the sub-levels (Real Estate, Economy, etc.)

This is the bigpicture.typepad.com/comments. Note the middle left side purple are DRM/digital media related links, while the bottom center green  all Housing related. Economics gets kinda buried in the center pile.

Tbp_touchgraph

(FYI: I seem to make it crash every 3rd request, but I run a dozen apps at once . . .)

Years ago, I looked at a very cool software company that did something very similar to this. Gotta dig that up . . .

via Econbrowser

Here's what the top level URL (bigpicture.typepad.com) generates:

Note all the econ stuff is the lower center green sector

Touchgraph_top

 

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Yes indeed..... I wonder if a similar graph can be made for derivativess....

Ouch....! Dat derre dollar is taking it in the cojones today... I wonder what Mr. Bernake can tell us that the market is not already saying.....?

Econlicious

Posted by: ECONOMISTA NON GRATA | Jul 10, 2007 12:11:41 PM

a meta search engine kartoo.com shows results in a similar manner.

Posted by: e_b_a_l | Jul 10, 2007 12:21:55 PM

That is very cool indeed.

Posted by: fiat lux | Jul 10, 2007 1:31:40 PM

'very cool software company' - was that at www.grokker.com?

The 'grok' presumably being the grok from Heinlein's book. Noted in the paper the other day that Heinlein just turned 100.

As I return to Grokker now, for the first time in a long while, I see that there are no edges on their graphs (there used to be). I looked up "Norilsk Metal" which was a fascinating article in last Sunday's NYT. Another Russian oligarch disappropriated of his empire by Putin & Co. as they bring more of the strategic assets of the economy under govt control.

I also note that Grokker can no longer draw their data from Google. Yahoo, Wikipedia and Amazon - yes. But not Google. I would presume that this is significant (one can imagine the glint in Google's eye).

Anyway, we use these kinds of graphs in-house. I'm a programmer for a finance firm. They may be other names but we call them 'force directed graphs'. The edges have a 'tensive' value attached to them which allows the graph (to some extent) to self-organize. Think of the edges as containing springs. And then you can parameterize those edges with differing kinds of values.

But (to the brief extent that I checked) Grokker no longer (at least visibly - so maybe under-the-hood) has the edges. Still it's clear that some kind of weighting(s) has occurred.

pat

Posted by: patf | Jul 10, 2007 2:45:32 PM

Java application demanding some signe applet-

Fugettit!

Posted by: b | Jul 10, 2007 3:26:27 PM

Bur with practice, by and by,
You'll tell a most convincing lie.

Posted by: Scytale | Jul 10, 2007 3:51:03 PM

heywaddayaknow. ishouldhaveguessed.

Force directed graphs. There's at least one Wikipedia article that bears upon the matter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force-based_algorithms

pat

Posted by: patf | Jul 10, 2007 5:31:25 PM

James Burke, the "Connections" guy, has been using this sort of technology to, well, provide visual links between historical figures to show the (sigh) connections between them. There was a sample app somewhere on the web, forgot where I put the link to it, but here's a YouTube description from the man his own self:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWxHC_8yBrc

Posted by: Jim Bergsten | Jul 10, 2007 7:45:27 PM

Looks cool and I'd love to try it but it has crashed my Firefox five times in a row -- I give up!

Posted by: C. Maoxian | Jul 10, 2007 8:08:30 PM

Go to www.grokker.com

Choose a 'good subject'. Enter that. Then dig in till you find the graph.

Grooker looks way cool.

Posted by: patf | Jul 10, 2007 10:24:05 PM

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