Blogger's Take: Hard or Soft Landing ?

Wednesday, November 01, 2006 | 07:00 PM

This is the fourth edition of our new feature: Blogger's Take.

We have seen an unusually active flow of economic data, and it has been pretty rough. While much of Wall Street has built-in expectations of a "Soft Landing," the recent economic data flow has been rather negative; Earnings have been excellent, but GDP, NAPM, Housing data are all ugly.

Today's Question: Is Goldilocks still alive? Are we heading for a soft landing, a hard thump, or something even worse? 

Here's the Blogger's Take:

"Financial entities now seem hard at work inflating earnings via some largely undisclosed version of (problem?) securities sales, and ratcheting up “fees” to customers. Of course my suspicion is that these transactions are conducted with Enron style off-balance sheet entities, or quasi-related hedge fund operators. But, we aren’t going to get even close to that aspect from public information. No sir, not even to first base. Here are some excerpts from the Citigroup conference call. If you actually listen to the call, the tone of the questions are NOT hostile, but polite. Given the failure of management to deal with these analysts in a forthright manner, I am amazed at their patience.

First, the analyst asks for the amount of the security gain. Finally, after slithering through the grass like a snake by responding about something else, namely “hedging performance” (another can of worms?), the exec gives a half ass response, as opposed to an answer:, coining the vague term “single biggest part” of the $296 million gain is from sale of securities. Hearing this, I wonder why she just doesn’t give the number? The analyst asks if the “number” is in “one of the pages”. The response is “no”, and then Krawchek ignores the followup question, “where can I get it.” We then get a direct question about consumer fees, and once again we merely get another response, as opposed to an actual answer.  Webster’s defines answer as "a correct response to a question" and defines response as "a reply, a rejoiner".

Russ Winter, Winter (Economic & Market) Watch


To bet on a soft landing is to bet that the market will defy its own history. Clearly, there has been the occasional soft landing before, there will be soft landings every so often in the future and this may be one of them but it is important to know that history is working against you.

We are at a point now where data point after data point is pointing to a slowing of some magnitude. That the economy will slow does not seem to be the debate but the magnitude of the slowing is the debate. Usually the stock market anticipates a recession by six to nine months. So far the market does not seem to be pricing in a recession which is one solid talking point for the no-recession-ever again guys. The bears say it is coming, just wait.

My take is that recessions are a normal part of the cycle. I have no reason to think this cycle will be different or strangely long in duration. This plus the state of the yield curve which, Chinese buying notwithstanding, is a warning. A recession in 2007 would set up for a big up year for stocks in either 2008 or 2009. Many decades have two or three really big up years, this decade has only had one; 2003. Iʼm not betting against history on this one.

-Roger Nusbaum, Random Roger


There is little doubt among market participants that the U.S. economy is slowing. The only question is how much and for how long? This most recent equity market run was driven in large part by lower interest rates predicated on the assumption of a soft landing. The Fed is not really tipping their hand with expectations that they will remain on hold through the December and January meetings. A question for equity market participants is what effect an economic slowdown may have on corporate profits? Post Internet bubble U.S. corporations have done an admirable job of raising profit margins. Some may argue that this has come largely at the expense of labor, broadly defined. Others claim that the Internet revolution has finally trickled down to the bottom line of corporate America. For instance, John Hussman at Hussman Funds has written extensively on the idea that currently high profit margins will mean revert to historical norms. An economic downturn, soft landing or not, will put both hypotheses to the test. For those betting on continued earnings buoyancy they had better hope that it really is different this time and historically high profit margins continue at, or near, record levels.

-Abnormal Returns


I believe the risk of a hard landing is not insignificant, but recent data does not point in that direction. We are not seeing the hallmarks of a hard landing such as collapsing core durable goods orders, rising jobless claims, or plummeting consumer confidence. Without those signals, the Fed will stick to the soft landing story. Consequently, the Fed is not likely to view 3Q06 report as disastrous; they will view as in line with their expectations. Will those expectations be correct? Time will tell.

-Mark Thoma, Economist’s View

Remember last January? Everyone was talking about the yield curve even though it was barely inverted at the time. Now, almost no one is talking about the yield curve, the one set of numbers that someone can and should believe. The Yield curve is what it is, and it is quite inverted, signaling a recession. Forget Goldilocks, the next recession will be an extremely hard affair, led by a falloff in consumer spending, rising unemployment, and a continued slowdown in housing.

I guess it's different this time. No one believes it because the Fed Fund rate is so much lower. Everyone is forgetting about the massive leverage in the housing sector and what it will mean to jobs when it implodes.

-Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis


Wall Street does have built-in expectations of a soft landing, but they get paid to be optimists.  Most people on Wall Street aren't in the business of protecting capital, they are in the business of generating returns.  Those are two very different ways of looking at investment opportunities.  Overall, the data looks bad.  Pockets of earnings look great, but earnings have also become somewhat disconnected from the underlying economic realities they were intended to represent.  I discount their value as an indicator of economic health.  So what does that mean for a soft landing?  Ask me after the election.

-Rob May, Businesspundit


Over the last six to nine months the market’s mood has undergone a clear shift. Earlier in the year, when economic releases were weaker than expected, our screens reacted with lots of green, as it was a sign that the economy wasn’t getting too hot. Today (literally and figuratively), weaker reports are causing the market to sell off, as traders fret that the economy is starting to come in at a harder angle than previously thought. At this point, it sounds almost too cliché to say (when aren’t we placing extra emphasis on future data), but each data point will be scrutinized for any clues as to the economy’s direction. One lesser known indicator which we have found to be quite useful over the last several months is the commodities survey within the monthly ISM manufacturing report. In this survey, ISM asks respondents what commodities are rising in price and what commodities are falling. In the past, peaks and troughs in this survey have been pretty reliable forecasters of the direction of inflation (see the chart below).

In this month's survey, on a net basis, six commodities saw price declines which is the first negative reading since 2002.  When we first highlighted this survey earlier in the year, we argued that the downtrend in the number of commodities rising in price would likely lead to a decline in inflation. Now that inflation has in fact declined, future readings in the ISM survey will be even more important, as market watchers look for clues as to how hard or soft the economy's landing will be. While current levels are certainly tolerable, any further significant weakening is unlikely to go over well in the market.


-Paul Hickey, Tickersense


Very nicely done guys.  I'm all ears for topic suggestions going forward . . .

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I remember over the summer when Barry predicted Q3 earnings hits and my comment was that 'creative accounting' would allow them to blow sunshine for an extra quarter or two.

Right now I'm feeling pretty good about my prediction. :-)

Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 | Nov 1, 2006 7:19:26 PM

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