CNBC Appearance: Bubbles Everywhere ?!

Monday, April 30, 2007 | 09:57 AM

As we mentioned this weekend, I will be on CNBC this morning at 11:03 am discussing a bubblicious concept -- that the entire world is now bubble -- a situation likely to eventually get out of hand.

That is the view of Jeremy Grantham in his quarterly letter to investors as GMO’s Chairman of the Board. He oversees quantitative products and is director of investment strategies. In Grantham's 1Q 2007 letter to clients, he discusses how market bubbles form, why it's so difficult to pinpoint when a bubble will burst, and looks at potential catalysts for that event.

To give you a sense of GMO, they run $141 billion for mostly insitutional clients (and U.S. VP Dick Cheney). In their Equity portfolio of $125 billion, $93 billion of it is non-U.S. holdings. Grantham developed sometihng of a reputation as a bear -- despite running a mostly long-only portfolio.

Why does anyone care what Grantham thinks? In additon to outperforming most of his peers, his qaurterly letter reveal him to be a smart quantitative investor, who relies on the simple mathematical concept of mean reversion. Based on that thesis, in June 2000, he noted in a Forbes debate with Henry Blodget that markets were still way over-valued:

"We basically believe that, from their highs, the S&P 500 will decline 50%; the Nasdaq, 70%; and the nonearnings Nasdaq, 80%. The safest thing to say is sooner or later. The great bear markets do not hurry. They have often had precipitous decline phases. But basically the 1929 peak didn't really bottom until 1945. The 1972 peak didn't bottom until 1982. And, incidentally, in those ten years, the S&P was down close to 40% in real terms." (emphasis added)

That call turned to spot on (I have the the full text, but if anyone has a link, it would be appreciated).

For those of you who did not follow up the reference in the linkfest,  here's a quick overview:

1. Global fundamental economic conditions are nearly perfect and have been for some time.

2. Availability of global credit is generous and cheap and has been for some time.

3. Animal spirits and optimism are therefore high and feed on themselves through reinforcing results and through being universally shared.

4. All global assets reflect this and are overpriced and show, probably for the first time, a negative return to risk taking.

5. The correlation in global economic fundamentals is at a new high, reflected in the steadily increasing correlation in asset price movements.

6. Global credit is more extended and more complicated than ever before so that no one is sure where all the increased risk has ended up.

7. Every bubble has always burst.

8. The bursting of the bubble will be across all countries and all assets, with the probable exception of high grade bonds. Risk premiums in particular will widen.

9. Naturally the Fed and Fed equivalents overseas will move to contain the economic damage as the Fed did last time after the 2000 break. But the heart of thelast bubble, the NASDAQ and internet stocks, still declined by almost 80% and 90%, respectively.   

10. What is wrong with this logic? Something I hope. 

11. Of course the tricky bit, as always, is timing. Most bubbles, like internet stocks and Japanese land, go through an exponential phase before breaking, usually short in time but dramatic in extent. My colleagues suggest that this global bubble has not yet had this phase and perhaps they are right.

The bottom line remains that U.S. stocks are hardly the bargain they are made out to be; Rather, trading them has become a combination of liquidity driven momentum based investing.

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Grantham is the best asset allocator in the world. Paying attention to his 7 year forecasts is definitely worthwhile.

OT, I had to post the news that David Lereah has moved on from shilling for the NAR

WESTLAKE VILLAGE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Move, Inc. (NASDAQ:MOVE - News), the media leader for the when, where and how to move, announced today that Dr. David Lereah has joined the company as an executive vice president for Move, Inc. and serve as chairman and partner with Allan Dalton, who will be the president and CEO, of a new business entity which will launch in the third quarter of 2007 and which is expected to be transformational for both consumers and real estate professionals.

Lereah is the nation's leading real estate economist . For seven years, he has served as senior vice president and chief economist of the NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS® (NAR) as the Association's spokesman on the U.S. economy, the housing and real estate markets as well as other economic and policy issues affecting the industry in the U.S. and abroad. He also directed the Association's Research Division, the Regulatory and Industry Relations Division, the Real Estate Services Group and Strategic Planning Activities for the Association.

"David Lereah has established himself as the ultimate expert for the real estate industry," said Allan Dalton. "Having David partner with me on this new venture will ensure that consumers and the industry will benefit from his unparalleled knowledge of financial issues and the real estate marketplace."

Posted by: madlibs | Apr 30, 2007 11:02:59 AM

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