Ah, that's good :) Well, I better be off to work, so no time to comment more :/

Posted by: Phillip Hutchings | Nov 4, 2004 3:30:55 PM

I have a news flash for all you disgruntled Democrats who are moaning about having to move to Canada.
Well, nothing personal folks, but speaking as a true Canadian, I have a revelation for you. WE DON'T WANT YOU.
I have no interest in you transplanting your "American" values into our beautiful country and polluting our society. Fight your own fights on your own soil. If 1/2 of you doesn't have enough brains to add 2 + 2 and come up with 4, that's not our concern.
This is more typical American arrogance that makes you think you can just waltz in and set up shop to be welcomed with open arms. It ain't gonna happen.
Clean up your own backyard instead of contaminating ours!!

Posted by: B.L.Webb | Nov 5, 2004 3:22:22 PM

For B.L. Webb;
Hey flamebait, a lot of folks here are mystified, depressed, confused and feeling that they've awakened in a strange country. The United States of Canada is a joke - get it? Sometimes we joke as a means of keeping despair at bay.
Canada is safe for the moment, Mr. Webb, but is sure as Hell isn't immune. Mull that over.

Posted by: Dennis Poledna | Nov 5, 2004 3:37:01 PM

you know, B.L., you're right. why don't the dems got to the place where they're hatred of america is respected and applauded: france. it seems they share the same values.

Posted by: austin | Nov 5, 2004 7:31:16 PM

It's not hatred of the U.S., stupid, it's fear and depression over what our great country is becoming. Most of us love our country, and seeing our nation -- based on ideals of liberty, freedom, equality, and championing the less fortunate -- turned into one based on power, privilege, and bigotry is depressing and frightening to the strongest-stomached of us.

The Republicans have done a *brilliant* job playing to the fears and narrow-mindedness of a majority of our nation, and we're now reaping the whirlwind as more and more of the rest of the world loathes and fears us.

George Orwell was right; the best way to keep a population in check is to maintain a state of permanent warfare (see 1984, and compare the war between Oceania. Then your average citizen is too paralyzed by fear of the "badguys" and too polarized into an "us vs. them" mentality to see the rot that's taken root in his own hometown.

It's not hatred of America, you fool, it's being awake and seeing the fires burning closer and closer while the mindless herds hungrily consume the Pravda-like pap that Fox News spoons out and keep pouring more gasoline on the flames...

Posted by: T. Canham | Nov 5, 2004 8:56:38 PM

"If 1/2 of you doesn't have enough brains to add 2 + 2 and come up with 4, that's not our concern."

Well duh...the half that can't do that arithmatic don't *want* to come to Canada, it's the brighter half that are as sick of the current US government as you are. But come to think of it, the half that voted for Bush will probably start thinking of taking over Canada eventually (to protect the US from terrorists of course).

But seriously...what sense does it make for you to vent your xenophobic spleen on the very people who object to all the same things you don't like about the US?

Posted by: anomaly | Nov 5, 2004 10:25:10 PM

"It's not hatred of the U.S., stupid, it's fear and depression over what our great country is becoming."

Yeah... better. :P

Posted by: Steve Speck | Nov 6, 2004 12:23:48 AM

I think 'Jesustan' is more apt.

Posted by: California | Nov 6, 2004 4:50:07 AM

Throw in Hawaii and it's a deal.

Posted by: mr. canada | Nov 6, 2004 10:23:03 AM

For the record, even if you were serious about joining canada, believe me, you would hate it. I often say, "Australia was responsible for taking Britains convicts, and Canada... well we took care of Britains mentally challenged folk." I sound a little jaded about Canada, don't I? I could give you reasons why, but frankly you've your own problems to mull over... that and noone could give rats ass about Canada anyway.

Posted by: A.W. | Nov 7, 2004 4:33:59 PM

It doesn't show on that map, but Hawaii would automatically be thrown in because they didn't vote for the chimp. So Canada acquires tropical paradise. Couldn't be that bad could it?

Posted by: Maui | Nov 7, 2004 6:20:06 PM

Hey dont flatter yourselves, heheh we dont really want a mass migration anyway. Someone refered to Canada as where the retarted folk went, but I would have to argue otherwise, afterall where we the jet engine invented, the light bulb, insulin, brain surgery, the snowmobile, hockey, garbage bag, JAVA, Quartz clock, standard time. and on and on. Sure the US can try to invade us again, but given their historical track record I dont give them much chance of success.

Posted by: LOL | Nov 7, 2004 6:56:08 PM

Joke or no joke, I feel all Americans are welcome here and I am not alone.
Do feel free to come on up (or down, if from Detroit and going to Windsor, but do us a favor in return? Take up a collection to put the small but annoying Canadian/Alliance/Reform/Christan/Conservitives on a bus bound for Texas or Kansas? Much oblgied!

Regards,
The GordFather

Posted by: Gordon Vaughan | Nov 7, 2004 8:23:11 PM

Thats not good enough, Try using the county by county map, you cant just assume any rural areas.

Posted by: Christian | Nov 8, 2004 10:25:06 AM

I think the Western provencies of Canada would fit better as part of Jesusstan also. They are similar to our western states in culture.

Posted by: Aaron | Nov 8, 2004 11:45:08 AM

Maybe you should call the north half of the map Satanland. You're a bunch of cry baby loosers.

Posted by: randluke | Nov 8, 2004 2:03:39 PM

We should pull out as soon as possible. If Canada will not have us maybe we just start our own country. I have lived in the South and let me tell you half the people that vote for Bush are as stupid as can be. Just like Bush. They lie and steal. Most churches in the south have at least two or three murders attending. Everyone knows it. Most of the churches also fly the Nazi flag. I know people who went into a sermon and never came out. Bush knows this too. He has video conferneces with his high priest and plan everything. Even beating the Democrats.. Of course he is stupid, so he got lucky. I do have information though that says Bush will take over the world with mind control. If this sounds outlandish....well I'm just trying to fit in with all the other post.

Posted by: truelies | Nov 8, 2004 2:20:16 PM

Personally, I welcome all the disillusioned and depressed democrats into our great northern land, wherein the democratic system isn't a complete joke (well, not quite, anyways). Reverse brain drain? I'm all for it. It might even help our doctor shortage. Unfortunately for the democrats, our immigration system (despite being active; I think we're seeking 250,000 immigrants next year and we'd be happy to overshoot that) has a line about a year long. So I'm afraid you'll be waiting a while... but please, don't let that discourage you. See you soon...

Posted by: JD May | Nov 8, 2004 3:33:43 PM

Why does the left shout "tolerance" from the hilltops and preach more hatred than anyone? If someone disagrees with you, they must automatically be evil in your mind. It seems freedom of speech is only for liberals, and tolerance applies only to the elitist left.

If you want to win people to your side of a political argument, calling them stupid isn't going to help your case, to the contrary, it shows that your argument is extremely weak. If you want your side to start winning elections again, show some of your beloved tolerance towards those you disagree with. Mocking people with a faith in a higher power won't win converts to the Church of Secular Humanism either.

No one runs to the arms of those who hate them. As long as you are under the delusion that those who ascribe to Conservatism wish to burn you at the stake you won't bother listening to them. Well, same goes for you too. As long as I am going to be called hateful for holding different values than you, or stupid for supporting different methods of helping the needy, I will have no interest in hearing you at all.

Wake up Liberal, you're playing the hate game that you accuse others of, and America is getting sick of it.

In order to tolerate someone or something, by definition you first have to disagree with it. If you agree, there is no need for tolerance. Take a good, hard look at yourself next time you consider throwing hateful names at people you disagree with, lest you be called "Hypocrite".

Posted by: Intolerated | Nov 8, 2004 4:04:15 PM

Intolerated. Great job. My feelings could not be expressed any better.

Posted by: randluke | Nov 8, 2004 4:09:53 PM

Why not secede? Canada would benefit by having New York City, Chicago, Detroit, Boston, Los Angeles, Silicon Valley, Seattle, and all the progressive people of those cities. The blue states hold all the means of production... "Jesusland" would be a third world nation without us! This is not such a bad idea... We have the duty as Americans to abolish the government if it fails to serve the will of the People, and protect our right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. The colonists threw off the control of King George III for fewer reasons than we have right now!

It's NOT a bad idea!

Posted by: WKW | Nov 8, 2004 5:04:11 PM

If any of you dont like Jesus Land then go the fuck somewhere else its obviose no want wants you people with no morals and sick minds around get over it our country was founded under the principals of God

Posted by: Mikey | Nov 8, 2004 5:04:16 PM

"Why not secede? Canada would benefit by having New York City, Chicago, Detroit, Boston, Los Angeles, Silicon Valley, Seattle, and all the progressive people of those cities...." from WKW...

Where are you going to get your food? Canada will not support all of you. And what about Guns, nukes, and the military? Oh and I almost forgot. Guts?

Posted by: randluke | Nov 8, 2004 6:31:59 PM

I've just spent the last hour reading the comments on this page and several others - and I'm still (as during the campaign) concerned about the "us" vs "them" mentality that prevails -no matter which side one is on. We're all in this together, folks! We don't all like the same things, but we ALL LOVE OUR COUNTRY!

Calling each other names only increases the animosity - it doesn't solve the problems! Even the tags 'liberals' and 'conservatives', 'right' or 'left' don't cover the reality. Very few people fit neatly into only one 'category'.

Intolerated, you're exactly right that no one wants to run to the arms of one who hates them. But - where does the idea or term 'hate' come from?? Why do you think I hate you because I am depressed right now? And why do you assume I am not Christian?

And Mikey, "....you people with no morals and sick minds?" That's just wrong! This election was very devisive and this country does need some healing -it's worrisome to see that it doesn't seem to be much in evidence yet!

Posted by: worried | Nov 8, 2004 7:16:08 PM

good point about the food. but this country was not founded on the principles of god. most if not all of the founding fathers were diests or agnostics. if this country was founded on christianity then we wouldn't have the establishment clause in the first ammendment. if you don't know what the establishment clause is you try reading your constitution.

Posted by: lala | Nov 8, 2004 8:19:28 PM